Andrea Rosebrock 
The story that started on Sunday with the siezure of dogs from a Northwest Tennessee home because of allegations of neglect continues to be investigated.
Almost 140 confiscated puppies and adult dogs, some of them very expensive breeds, sit as evidence at the Dyersburg fairgrounds. Animal cruelty investigators confiscated them a this house in Obion County where a suspected puppy mill was being operated.
Bud Fair, the owner of the alleged puppy mill, would not comment to Action News 5.
Dogs at the mill were allegedly found in cages in the woods behind Fair’s house. The cages had wire bottoms, and many of the breeding dogs spent most of their lives locked up in the cages.
The Obion Gibson County Humane Society is trying to build a criminal case against the Fairs.
“Right now we are waiting on a medical examination from the vet in Dyersburg,” said Obion County Sheriff Jerry Vastbinder.
Dr. Jon Martin said the animals he saw had cuts on their feet from the wire cages, scalding from urine, and socialization problems.
“Once we receive the medical evaluations, depending on what the evaluations are, if there is cruelty and neglect, we’ll sit down with the D.A. and go over the results and see if there are any charges,” Martin said.
Until that happens, the dogs will be kept as evidence. The humane society is hoping to find people to foster the dogs until a decision is made.
If you want to foster a dog, you can go to the Fairgrounds in Dyersburg Wednesday to fill out an application. They will ask you for references, because they want to make sure the dogs go to good homes.
An animal rights group from Utah plans to go to Dyersburg to offer legal expertise in making a case against the Fairs. (WMCTV)
Looks like there’s a fight brewing too!
A fight is brewing over more than one hundred animals rescued during a puppy mill bust.
A restraining order prevented hundreds of hopefuls from taking home one of the puppies, but the Humane Society said they are not giving up the puppies just yet.
Currently, 132 puppies have been seized in the bust in Obion County.
Dozens of people have turned out to clean the kennels, feed, and walk the dogs.
Wednesday afternoon, the dogs’ owner filed a temporary restraining order.
Jim Powell, the attorney in this case, claimed the puppies were taken illegaly, and that paperwork demans the dogs be turned over to the family vet.
The dogs still remain with the Humane Society.
Denise Flowers with the Humane Society refuses to turn the dogs over, claiming they will not receive the attention they deserve.
“As much work as it is, we’ll be taking care of these babies because we know they will be taken care of,” said Flowers.
Powell promises to file charges if the Humane Society continues to hold the puppies.
“When someone’s in violation of a court order, it’s possible to file a petition asking that they be held in contempt of the court order for failing to comply,” said Powell. (WMCTV)
“Adrienne – you said it was untrue that Dr. Page was the Fair’s vet in 2004. The report I read clearly states he was their vet at the time of the 2004 charges.”
Again, not according to Dr. Page who has been quoted that he did not become their vet until after that incident.
“Adrienne – you said it was untrue that Dr. Page was the Fair’s vet in 2004. I advised that a report I read states he was: Here is that article
http://network.bestfriends.org/truth/news/17248.html”
Good grief…what will take for you to get that Best Friends is not properly informed. Just because they say it is it doesn’t mean its true.
They are no more invulnerable to lying, misinforming, or simply being plain wrong than any other branch of journalism which has done a fine job at a one sided badly slanted review of this entire case.
“What you’ve shown is, you believe what you read (or choose to believe) is the truth…everyone is wrong!”
Actually, I am not up to believing anything just yet. The only things I believe are what constitutional rights violations have been made and that assumption has only been made by what info has been or has NOT been provided by the HS themselves.
Having seen and studies many-many-many breeder busts, it has been proven that 95% of the time these same violations are made, simply because, no one holds the HS accountable. In ALL the cases that I have read about, where there were the funds to fight the HS, these busts have been overturned and it has been proven that the HS knew nothing about the proper care and needs of the animals involved or that accusations were either out right lies and or extreme exaggerations. The greatest of these was the HS in texas that wound up with their head guy in jail for his multiple accounts of violations. It was known for years by the people watching this man what he was doing, unfortunately because of his position he was allowed to ruin countless lives before he got caught.
What you seem incapable of grasping is, I HAVE NO OPINION OF THE FAIRS…none. The only opinion I have even begun to form is that of an HS who has had some past issues…such as felonies, for fraud no less.
There is something wrong with this entire scenario and the only person who is wanting to believe what they want is you.
In my honest opinion, anyone who supports Animal Rights groups such as Best Friends, PETA, and the HSUS has NO interest in animal welfare or either they are so ignorant of what they are supporting they have no business in involving themselves in any branch of animal care.
Thanks for your opinons Adrienne: and yes, you’ve made it very clear you see nothing wrong with “raising dogs on wire”! (puppy mill lingo.) A little bit of reality is…there can be corruption in any organization. You have chosen to believe ALL that are in favor of helping neglected and abused animals are bogus. Sad…truly sad!
You would have to include vets who fight for the rights of animals and Sheriffs who witness abuse and file charges to be ignorant or corrupt as well. Oh, and lets not leave out a Judge if he sees fit to agree with the law…wow..how ignorant and corrupt would he be!
Again, no need to panic over what will happen to this world if animals are given the right to live free of neglect, abuse and being bred so inhumane, lazy, people can make money off of the puppies. Corruption will be around no matter what….the only thing that will changed is..puppy mills will be outlawed and the ‘front porch dwellers’ will have to get out and get real jobs.
I guess this debate is over since the judge gave the dogs back to the Fairs on the condition that the Fairs’ vet monitor the dogs for 6 months. Isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black?? So I guess the “front porch dwellers” get to sit their butts on the porch and let the dogs breed them their next meal.
Well, it appears that them ‘thar’ good ole boys found their ‘loophole’. Well, really they didn’t find one they have it well intact so that they can continue to be known as a backwood county known for living in the past. The pictures of the Fair’s, their home, the mill tells a pathetic story. Allowing a vet, who found nothing wrong with conditions of a puppy mill busted in 2004 and again in 2007, is like putting letting an established drug dealermonitor a house filled with ‘those addicted to crack”! Who’s allowing it…the Judge. What a sick and telling story that comes out of Obions TN.
“Well, it appears that them ‘thar’ good ole boys found their ‘loophole’. Well, really they didn’t find one they have it well intact so that they can continue to be known as a backwood county known for living in the past. The pictures of the Fair’s, their home, the mill tells a pathetic story. Allowing a vet, who found nothing wrong with conditions of a puppy mill busted in 2004 and again in 2007, is like putting letting an established drug dealermonitor a house filled with ‘those addicted to crack”! Who’s allowing it…the Judge. What a sick and telling story that comes out of Obions TN.”
Geeze, listen to yourself. No wonder the judge found “Best friends” and their people in no way shape or form impartial.
You people bring it on yourself.
Adrienne .. Everyone can read prior comments themselves. You don’t need to copy and paste text before giving your pro-puppymill comments. If you can’t handle the truth don’t read. I’m quite sure you have some animals you need to ‘raise on wire’ so why don’t you get busy with that. I’ll post my opnion again so you won’t have to.
Well, it appears that them ‘thar’ good ole boys found their ‘loophole’. Well, really they didn’t find one they have it well intact so that they can continue to be known as a backwoods county and known for living in the past. The pictures of the Fair’s, their home, the mill tells a pathetic story. Allowing a vet, who found nothing wrong with conditions of a puppy mill busted in 2004 and again in 2007, is like letting an established drug dealer monitor a house filled with ‘those addicted to crackâ€! Who’s allowing it…the Judge. What a sick and telling story that comes out of Obion (puppy mill) TN.
For those that don’t have to live off of neglecting and breeding animals for a living, or stand behind those that do, it’s obvious why this story ended as it did. It’s not forgotten.
“Adrienne .. Everyone can read prior comments themselves. You don’t need to copy and paste text before giving your pro-puppymill comments. ”
I copy and paste as required by proper “netiquette” standards. This is so that there is no confusion as to which post I am referring too.
“If you can’t handle the truth don’t read. I’m quite sure you have some animals you need to ‘raise on wire’ so why don’t you get busy with that. I’ll post my opnion again so you won’t have to.”
Your idea and my idea of the truth must be vastly different…and for right now the judge in the case seems to agree…and that’s the ONLY opinion that matters.
What you are not reporting in this case is that it has been given a continuance. This does not mean any one has “won”. It is a very common and standard practice in a court proceeding especially when the prosecution is on shaky ground and needs time to build their case.
The last time I checked a continuance was not a “loop hole”….
If you are referring to something else please be specific. If there was a “loop hole” that was taken advantage of then the prosecuting side has only themselves to blame. They were sloppy and it was obvious. They got cocky and thought they were just going to march in their and take what they wanted.
Just because there is a judge involved that requires the law enforcers to follow the law, it does not mean it’s a loop-hole.
Adrienne…..what you failed to understand is the word ‘appears. It is the word I used in the beginning of my comment.
What was reported on a major news station at 7 a.m. today was: The Obion County animal abuse case, involving Mary Jo and Bud Fair, appears to be coming to a very unpopular conclusion. It is reported, the Fair’s attorney is bargaining to have the Judge return the dogs to the Fair’s. The condition for the return is, their personal vet, Dr. Bob Page, will monitor the animals for the next six months.
As for ‘continuance’ it means..allow to continue. There is no question, the second puppy mill bust, the Fair’s should have been stopped dead in their tracks…no continuance! The animals should have been given to a reputable organization to care for until adoptions could be processed.
The Fair’s personal vet did not find anything wrong with the condition or the surroundings a few days prior to the puppy mill bust! Isn’t this one convenient bargin! It’s nothing less than trying to paint over ‘neon with white-wash’!
“Adrienne…..what you failed to understand is the word ‘appears. It is the word I used in the beginning of my comment.”
Whatever… you just keep trying to convince yourself that’s what you meant.
Whatever…..you better run out and check ‘ them thar’ dogs being ‘raised on wire’.
“Author: j rush
Comment:
Whatever…..you better run out and check ‘ them thar’ dogs being ‘raised on wire’.”
Sorry to disappoint you,but my dogs live in the house. Although there is nothing illegal or even wrong about keeping dogs on wire, which you seem to have a hard time comprehending. Keeping dogs on wire is what the USDA suggests, and it’s one of the few ways to house them according to their standards. And if you are so adamant about dogs NOT being on wire why aren’t you petitioning every AKC dog show being held around the country…because I guarantee you there are plenty of dogs “living” on wire, especially the toy coated breeds, and especially while they are being shown.
Adrienne….From your past comments, you could hardly add anything further that would disappoint me. While you keep lobbying to keep dogs on wire, I’ll keep mine on carpet. Sheesh you are stretching this like you’re in a panic over dogs being treated as humans.
I know confining dogs in cages 24/7, for the purpose of mass breeding, surrounded by filth, is not something that the USDA suggests. I know you won’t find any puppy mills within an AKC dog show. Thanks for that worthless bit of personal information…but I don’t need to continue to address your beliefs regarding the right for puppy mills to thrive.
Have a great day!
“Adrienne….From your past comments, you could hardly add anything further that would disappoint me. While you keep lobbying to keep dogs on wire, I’ll keep mine on carpet. Sheesh you are stretching this like you’re in a panic over dogs being treated as humans.”
See, there you go again. Missing the entire point of my argument.
Just as I would fight for someone’s right to keep dogs on wire, I would fight for their right to keep dogs on carpet. Which is why I was against Paws…and spoke out against Paws every chance I got. Paws would have made keeping dogs in your home impossible. The only people breeding dogs would have been those keeping them on wire.
Again. You, as so many, are trying to find a crime where there isn’t one. Keeping dogs on wire is not a crime. You may not like it but its not a crime. And nor should it be, because once you start allowing for that infringement then you are going to find some one else speaking against keeping dogs inside, because its cruel or inhumane, how all dogs should run loose and free.
It would be very easy for you to find yourself on the list of “cruel” persons.
“I know confining dogs in cages 24/7, for the purpose of mass breeding, surrounded by filth, is not something that the USDA suggests. I know you won’t find any puppy mills within an AKC dog show. Thanks for that worthless bit of personal information…but I don’t need to continue to address your beliefs regarding the right for puppy mills to thrive.”
Again, you are not being completely honest. The USDA requires that dogs be kept on non-porous surfaces that can be sterilized. Many of the USDA kennels that are shut down, that you are shown in the media are exceptions to the rule. It is along the same lines of the media showing only vicious AmStaffs, or Rottweilers. Pretty soon people began to believe it and see dangerous dogs where there are none.
Worthless information? Really? “Puppymills” don’t exist within the AKC dog show world? You’re kidding right? You are either very ignorant or you simply choose to keep your head in the sand.
Adrienne…the Fair’s (backed by their personal vet Bob Page of Dresden) ran an unlicensed puppy mill. You can glorify it all you want. Anyone caging 130 dogs in the woods, neglecting them for nothing more than to make a pathetic living off of them are sick. They are puppy millers. Yes this Judge (ahemmmmmm) sided with the Fair’s. Their personal vet, Bob Page, sided with them. SO WHAT? it does not make this any less a puppy mill. Now, that it’s open season for puppy millers in Obion County, they won’t even have to hide them in the woods. That’s just great!
Adrienne, I fully understand what you are saying about a person’s right to raise or not raise animals. I am not siding with anyone here, but this does not look like someone who loves their animals. Here is the link to the 156 photos taken July 15th at the Fairs property. People interested can judge for themselves.
This is why I could not raise dogs for profit. I would want to keep all the puppies and would never make a dime.
PICTURES
“Adrienne, I fully understand what you are saying about a person’s right to raise or not raise animals. I am not siding with anyone here, but this does not look like someone who loves their animals. Here is the link to the 156 photos taken July 15th at the Fairs property. People interested can judge for themselves.
This is why I could not raise dogs for profit. I would want to keep all the puppies and would never make a dime.”
You mean to tell me those are the dogs that are so matted and abused? Those are your holy grail pictures? No wonder you lost your case. Yes, I see dog poop, dogs poop. I don’t like their set up, there are a lot of things wrong that need fixing, a ton of rust on those solid bottom pens.
But those dogs are supposed to be in dire need? A few dirty teeth and some bald spots? Bald spots that probably come from the rubbing their backs and buts on the edge of those dog houses.
I see a place that needs cleaning a repair. I bet if I went around your house and took close up pictures behind your sofa and other places I could make you look pretty bad as well.
No, I would not house those dogs that way, but they are in no-way-shape or form in the conditions told to the media and the public. In fact, for how they are house, they are pretty darn clean and groomed. Short hair cuts, fluffy coats.
Starving dogs? I only see very fat well fed ones. If you mean the ones nursing puppies, nursing mothers do get thin. And an eye infection? Its probably a scratched eye which are common to happen in that breed. Scratched eyes always look worse then they actually are. Or the dog may simply have chronic dry eye, which also makes a dog’s eye look bad.
I am sorry, but while that is not how I would raise my dogs, it is not the death pit that the HS people have made it out to be. The dogs are not on chicken wire as they told the media, another lie, they are on coated wire (which by the way is not cheap) and their pens are built of welded wire. That is a huge difference then claiming they were being kept ON chicken wire.
If that was meant to shock me…sorry….I’ve seen and rescued far-far worse. That is simply a person who needs to upgrade and repair what they have so that it looks more presentable.
Mary thank you for giving the link to the 2007 photos. For now, the Fair’s have the animals back so this makes two cruelty cases against they have been allowed to skirt. If the Fair’s are so proud of what they do for a living why do they keep the animals caged and hidden in the woods? Because they had no license and neglect the animals. This type puppy mill is illegal. If they want to breed pure breds for the sake of the breed that’s one thing…what they do is quite another. Obviously, Bob Page DVM or the Obion county officals do not have a problem with a couple who has prior cruelty records, who continue to run a puppy mill. I can certainly say, I do not know a vet that would never approve, or stand behind anyone like the Fair’s.
Are Mary Jo and Bud Fair disabled? If so, the government offers monetary help! Are they mentally or physicaly incapable of getting jobs and making a living like other people? I saw the pictures of their home. I must say, it doesn’t look like they use the mass breeding profits for it! Run down, needs paint, shabby to say the least. Maybe they are working on a retirement fund so they can continue to be porch dwellers.
There are plenty of reputable breeders who raise these expensive dogs, they are licensed and supply AKC records on the animals. They keep them in their homes and give them love and affection. They don’t keep force them to live in cages, hidden in the woods. People rescue animals such as this all the time..when they are rescued they do not continue the neglect and cruelty. They give them love and care until they can find adoptive homes.
If Obion County needs revenue…they could lobby for manufacturers to build in the area. Wouldn’t that be something to be proud of rather than to be known for excusing and allowing puppy mills to thrive! Not much revenue comes from the lazy who trash up the county with their neglected homes…while abusing aminals.
Adrienne…I’m not addressing you because you wear your “pro Fair’s sign well”. Mary….thanks again for the link.
“re Mary Jo and Bud Fair disabled? If so, the government offers monetary help! Are they mentally or physicaly incapable of getting jobs and making a living like other people? I saw the pictures of their home”
Firstly, I am actually appreciative that these people were trying to take care of themselves rather than be a leach on the butt of America. To many people who can find a legal alternative means of self-employment don’t. No, they simply hold out their hand and expect the tax paying Americans to support them. Some of that money, btw, is paid by those making a living off of breeding dogs…so guess what, they are supporting more than themselves with that “puppy” money.
These people were not doing anything illegal. Whether you like it or not you are going to just have to deal with it. We do not live in “the land of Rush” we live in “America” we do not live our lives “according to J Rush” we live our lives according to the Bill of Rights and our Constitution. If you don’t like that then please, by all means leave this country establish yourself an island where you can rule your land with an iron fist. Very few people appreciate or want to live under a dictatorship. Prepare to be very alone in your little world.
“I must say, it doesn’t look like they use the mass breeding profits for it! Run down, needs paint, shabby to say the least. Maybe they are working on a retirement fund so they can continue to be porch dwellers.”
Because, the reality of breeding dogs it is usually a poor man’s occupation. Much like any area of farming, unless done on a mass-mass scale, the farmer usually lives a very meager life. Not everyone in this world has the luck of being born into money, having the opportunity for a high scale education (which takes money), or the simply luck of winning the lottery. There are a lot more poor working Americans than there are middle class or even wealthy. More than likely once they got done paying their bills, their feed bills, vet bills and whatever else, there simply was not any money left to spend. That is the life of a commercial dog breeder. Most are dirt poor.
“There are plenty of reputable breeders who raise these expensive dogs, they are licensed and supply AKC records on the animals. ”
Once again you have no idea. Most “reputable” AKC breeder *REFUSE* to be licensed. They think that that classifies you as a PM. It does not matter whether or not the local laws require it. The majority absolutely will not comply. This is often a hot bed of topic in my own all breed club.
Giving AKC records, once again, means nothing. It’s paper work. It does not decide whether you are reputable or not.
Most importantly, in the state of Tenn YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE LICENSED TO BREED DOGS. This is a common thing in MANY states. Some states make allowances that while there might be state licenses the county rules and regulations over ride.
“They keep them in their homes and give them love and affection. They don’t keep force them to live in cages, hidden in the woods.”
You just keep telling yourself that. You have no clue.
“People rescue animals such as this all the time..when they are rescued they do not continue the neglect and cruelty. They give them love and care until they can find adoptive homes.”
Care is not putting dogs on concrete covered in plastic and leaving them soaking wet. Stuffing dogs 3-4 in a crate for transport, then housing them in tiny vari kennels with Pee pads because they have no way to let them out.
I am sorry. But that kind of care is far-far worst than putting dogs on wire, where they can breath, remain dry, and have room to move around.
“Adrienne…I’m not addressing you because you wear your “pro Fair’s sign well”.
Well, for your comfort. If your rights to house dogs as you saw fit, were in question, I would stand up for you as well. So, at least you can go to bed tonight knowing at least some one cares about your rights, some one cares that you want to own dogs how you please, some one cares that you keep those rights and that property. I am here for you. I promise.
There are plenty of ways to make a living Adrienne that does not require caging 137 dogs and neglecting them. As for poor? Poor does not mean dirty or inhumane! Being poor has nothing whatsover to do with being cruel and neglecting animals. That comes only from the lazy and those that are inhumane.
The rest of what you typed is the same ole. Myself, and many others agree, puppy mills like the Fair’s run (and that is the subject) should be shut down.
I took one of my cats to the vet late yesterday. He too is following this case and his words were…”someone should have a vet watching the vet” in this case.
“There are plenty of ways to make a living Adrienne that does not require caging 137 dogs and neglecting them. As for poor? Poor does not mean dirty or inhumane!”
Poor or wealthy some people do collect junk and have a junky home. Again, nothing illegal and nothing wrong with that. Its simply human perception.
I cannot for the life of me figure out why you see dogs differently than any other type of live stock. Do you think all animals are being kept inhumanely when they are being raised for commercial purposes? Do you grow your own food? What about *people* who work inhumanely in mills and factories, especially those over seas producing your inexpensive clothing or walmart shoes? Do you picket Wal-mart? Tell them they are being cruel and inhumane? Or is that okay, because its people or because its not in your back yard?
I am confused as to these standards of care. How can one be okay and not the other?
I want you to stop and think about what you are saying for a moment. You want these people punished because of something that you perceive to be immoral. Do you feel the same way about gays and lesbians? About interracial couples? What about religions? Or those who want multiple wives….And before you say “that’s not the same thing” it most certainly is the same thing. These people’s culture, their lifestyle if you will, says it’s okay to breed dogs commercially and have them live in wire cages. They do not see anything morally wrong with that. Who appointed you and others, at the head of the moral police? And gave you power to decide what should and should not be.
How the dogs were being kept and housed is an issue of morality. It has absolutely nothing to do with your perceived interpretation of the law. If you don’t agree with what they are doing, then don’t buy a dog from them. But don’t whine and cry when some one else does because the fact of the matter is there are not enough pure bred dogs to fill the niche market and there are not enough cheap pure bred dogs, when there is enough of a particular breed….
The HS made a mistake and they just need to deal with it. They did not dot their I (s) and cross their T (s) and they got burned. I realize you guys are not used to breeders standing up to you…but get ready…fewer and fewer are going to lay down and take it any more. So you had better be ready for the war if your going to pick a fight….
Ok Adrienne..glad you got all of that out again, I’m sure somehow helped you…and you are entitled to your opinion. Again don’t expect me or anyone who truly loves animals to believe neglect/abuse is acceptable.
You typed….(Adrienne on 03 Aug 2007 at 2:10 pm # I realize you guys are not used to breeders standing up to you…but get ready…fewer and fewer are going to lay down and take it any more. So you had better be ready for the war if your going to pick a fight)…
hmmm Adrienne, most breeders do not neglect or abuse the breed they raise. The Fair’s have no interest in a breed, only the money they can stuff in their pockets from selling puppies. That was evident in 2004 and it is again in 2007. Since this is the Fair’s second ‘plea bargin’ acquired by the backing of their personal vet, Bob Page……the good thing is…they will be watched by many now..not just by Bob Page.
“Ok Adrienne..glad you got all of that out again, I’m sure somehow helped you…”
No. No one has ever helped me. I have worked for what I have and I have done it alone.
“hmmm Adrienne, most breeders do not neglect or abuse the breed they raise. The Fair’s have no interest in a breed, only the money they can stuff in their pockets from selling puppies.”
Again. This is not happening to breeders who abuse. Just take a look around, and stop reading just what the media wants you to see in the papers…
There have been many cases recently similar to this in nature…where the HS was found in the wrong.
Andrienne, I’m going by photos, reports from a vet, a sheriff, etc. I am not backing the HS there…I’m seeing it for myself. This is no way to breed animals…it’s nasty, filthy, inhumane and wrong….that’s my opinion.
“Andrienne, I’m going by photos, reports from a vet, a sheriff, etc. I am not backing the HS there…I’m seeing it for myself. This is no way to breed animals…it’s nasty, filthy, inhumane and wrong….that’s my opinion.”
You are basing an opinion on photos that you have no idea are valid or not and reports that are obviously going to be bias.
If I don’t know they are valid, how would you know they are invalid. What I know is, the photos are dated. As for obviously biased,no the reporters have no reason to be biased, they simply report the news.
Have a great night.
“If I don’t know they are valid, how would you know they are invalid. What I know is, the photos are dated. As for obviously biased,no the reporters have no reason to be biased, they simply report the news.”
I don’t know…but at least I am not using them to cause harm to some one.
After certain incidences and remarks made by the HS, that these photos on their own (if they are valid) prove them to have been liars in the past, makes anything they present questionable.
As for the media being non-bias….is that on the same planet where AKC show people don’t keep dogs on wire, don’t keep dogs in bad condition, and don’t breed dogs for profit.
You continue to invent things. Phone the Fair’s, check up on the latest by asking them for the truth. I’m sure that way you’ll get the whole truth and nothing but the truth since they didn’t give it in court. The truth they don’t tell people when they have them meet them away from their filthy breeding ground to sell the animals they live off of.
Goodnight Adrienne.
“You continue to invent things. Phone the Fair’s, check up on the latest by asking them for the truth. I’m sure that way you’ll get the whole truth and nothing but the truth since they didn’t give it in court. The truth they don’t tell people when they have them meet them away from their filthy breeding ground to sell the animals they live off of.”
Invent things? No that’s the HS’s job, sorry. Apparently the judge agrees.
It’s over, the HS made a mistake. Get over it.
Adrienne…(is your last name Fair?) We will never get over the (injustice (The FAIRS’s) in Obion County or those who allowed the injustice = vet and officials)
Everyone is watching.
The puppies lying in urine and how could they if they were on wire? Easy to explain: The puppy house on the inside, each cage has a slick fiberglass bottom. Mom and puppies pee on the smooth surface and puppies can’t get traction to stand up and therefore are lying in the urine for days. Now the inside fiberglass cage has a door to the outside. The mom and puppies when tall enough go out the door into the outside world where they are walking on wire bottoms. The puppies feet are still so small they fall through the wire floor. Now when and if they can get their little feet pulled back up, they try to open the door to go back inside, but can’t because they don’t know how to take their nose and open the door from the side like their mother has learned after living in that cage for years. Once they are outside, they are stuck out there unless someone happens to find them and climbs upon a ladder and reaches way inside the wire cage to free them and then take them back inside. If they are stuck outside for some time, don’t worry about the 90 degree heat, they have shade, a piece of corrugated fiberglass about their head onto of their cage that is full of feces from the cage above that falling down onto it and even running over onto the cage below and into where this little puppy is standing with his foot through the wire waiting to be found from someone who gives a d__n. That’s how they lay in urine and still walk on wire cages. There was also a mother dog with 6 week old puppies that had to be taken from her per Dr. Martin, because she needed to be spayed because her uterus was in the process of coming out of her body because of over breeding! The worst cases weren’t the ones stated in the warrants, that’s the ones the Sheriff picked to use. The Vet who examined them was from Dyersburg. The other Vet who flew in from Atlanta would not be able to be here for the supposedly “preliminary hearing”, but would be able to be here to testify to the other 117 by the time the trial came around. That’s why all 127 dogs were not used in the warrant process. So much more to this story that so many people don’t know about or understand. If there wasn’t enough evidence, then why did the DA agree to take the case from the start and allow the Sheriff to sign the warrants? Come on people, think about it. There is more to the Obion County judicial system than you know. Also, Bud Fair did make a statement to the “informant”, not Dr. Carol Feathers, that he didn’t have to worry about the law in Obion County, he knew the Sheriff! That is why he relocated there. If you all would just sit back and think about this whole thing outside of the box, then you would be able to make sense and understand why this case has a 6 months continuance.
What someone KNOWS and everyone is watching:
Another thing, Dr. Page has been the Fair’s vet for the last 3 years…then why oh why were the animals in such horrible condition? Because he has a vested interest in these animals! Do you know he has a laboratory where these animals are being housed right now? Yes a Lab!!! RED FLAG! In these parts of the state he is known very well as “The puppy mill vetâ€. Why do you think that is? He supports PUPPY MILLS! This isn’t the only one he supports, their are others. He’s not the God everyone makes him out to be….do some research. Yes he invented the Parvo vaccine…that doesn’t make him a good vet, only a good inventor.
2004 bust of Mary Jo and Bud Fair
http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x29/puppymills_photo/
2007 bust of Mary Jo and Bud Fair
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“Adrienne…(is your last name Fair?) We will never get over the (injustice (The FAIRS’s) in Obion County or those who allowed the injustice = vet and officials)”
I have to ask. Does it make you feel good trying to use some one’s name to insult some one else? Or are you simply that unable to believe that not everyone should or will agree with you. Why not educate yourself a little more, try looking outside the small blinder world that BF has created for you. Why not join a FACTUAL email list, like Pet-Law. Learn something.
And you’re right. Everyone is WATCHING. Rescues that are used to getting away with theft had better wake up and watch out. It will no longer be tolerated.
Again. Its over. The HS lost, deal with it.
I sure hope the Fairs are not seeking a liable and slander case against the HS, because you guys sure are making it easy for them to prosecute.
tsk tsk Andrienne……………………….
Hmmm? Spring a leak?
“Nick Kenny Action News 5 reports – Mr. Powell says each day the dogs are not returned to Mary Jo and James Willian ‘Bud’ Fair loose money. They make their living off of breeding and selling dogs.”
Here’s a thought from the working class of TN to the Fair’s!
If Gibson/Obion county offers Food Stamps, Welfare, or SSI, maybe the Fair’s could live the life of luxury from applying for one (or all) of the subsidized programs and stop living off the dogs they neglect.
“”Nick Kenny Action News 5 reports – Mr. Powell says each day the dogs are not returned to Mary Jo and James Willian ‘Bud’ Fair loose money. They make their living off of breeding and selling dogs.”
Here’s a thought from the working class of TN to the Fair’s!
If Gibson/Obion county offers Food Stamps, Welfare, or SSI, maybe the Fair’s could live the life of luxury from applying for one (or all) of the subsidized programs and stop living off the dogs they neglect.”
Again, they are still not doing anything illegal.
You just don’t like it…but as I said before, your opinion doesn’t really matter now does it?
Mary Jo and James William ‘Bud’ Fair Gibson/Obion County TN (not the 2004 neglect case) this is the second occurring in July 2007.
The puppy house on the inside, each cage has a slick fiberglass bottom. Mom and puppies pee on the smooth surface and puppies can’t get traction to stand up and therefore are lying in the urine for days. The inside fiberglass cages has a door to the outside. The mom and puppies when tall enough go out the door into the outside world. They are then walking on wire bottoms. The puppies feet are still so small they fall through the wire floor. When and if they can get their little feet pulled back up, they try to open the door to go back inside. They can’t because they don’t know how to take their nose and open the door from the side like their mother has learned after living in that cage for years. Once they are outside, they are STUCK out there unless someone happens to find them and climbs upon a ladder and reaches way inside the wire cage to free them. If they are stuck outside for some time, don’t worry about the 90 degree heat, they have shade? Sure, a piece of corrugated fiberglass above their heads that is full of feces from the cage above that falling down onto it. It then runs over onto the cage below and into where this little puppy is standing with his foot through the wire waiting to be found!
The affidavits said that in Dr. Martin’s opinion, the dogs were malnourished, neglected and in need of medical treatment. There was also a mother dog with 6 week old puppies that had to be taken from her per DR. MARTIN, because she needed to be spayed because her uterus was in the process of coming out of her body because of over breeding!!!!!
After the affidavits were read in the civil hearing, Dr. Martin stated that many of the items he listed could have been caused by stress from the move. It seems to me that he is recanting his story. Is Dr. Martin still helping the GOCHS with their rescues? I bet he is careful with what he states from now on. I would like to know which moma he is refering to. Is it the one that the GOCHS still has not returned to the Fair’s? The court has ordered that all adults and puppies be in Dr. Page’s care. Why did the GOCHS decide that they would like to keep a few? Is it because a vet tech was so attached to the French Bulldog that she thought no one would miss it? If you would like to state some facts why don’t you contact the ones handling the case and not just what you read.
Let me make it clear that the GOCHS claim they have returned all adults and puppies. I would hate for them to have to pay the Fair’s for their missing adults and a puppy. That moma surely had at least one more litter of puppies to come. Let’s add the cost of a purebred puppy times 6 in a litter. Then add the cost of a French Bulldog puppy to that list. That could be an expensive mistake on their part.
Hi OStarr – let me explain, unlike you, I am not pro GOCHS. I am PRO HUMANE TREATMENT OF ANIMALS. I am against lazy humans living off of over breeding animals for a living. You obviously have a problem with a ‘group’ of people. I, on the other hand, have a problem with animal neglect for the almighty dollar. You dislike the GOCHS, that’s your personal problem!! What has happened is that these poor dogs have gotten caught in the middle of those whinning about who should have gotten custody. Their well being has been ignored. AN IMPARTIAL vet or organization should have been granted custody. You may try to candy coat who did what. You may try to make excuses for why this injustice was carried out. I will go by the facts reported and stay out of the petty fued that you and others have with GOCHS. IT was and IT remains to be about neglect of dogs. Neglect because SOME do not want to get out and work for a living…and SOME do not care to stop them !!!!!!!!
If this is what the conditions were in 2004, I’d bet my life that they are not any better in Bud Fair’s new operation. These pictures are priceless, enough said:http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x29/puppymills_photo/” target=”_blank” rel=”nofollow”> http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x29/puppymills_photo/
I don’t mean that those 2004 pictures should not be shown over and over so people will never forget what has happened again in 2007. I first thought maybe the owners should be given a chance. The more I read and the more I see my opinion changes. Sad very very sad.
Weird how the pictures have been removed.
Justice has PREVAILED once again. Raising dogs for profit is NOT illegal and until it becomes so and dogs are eradicated from the United States seizures such as this one will have a harder time of succeeding.
If there is JUST CAUSE then by all means take the dogs and adopt them out but I find it unnecessary to splash the breeders all over the world wide net and try to humiliate them and ruin their lives. Isn’t it about getting the dogs out of a bad situation and finding them good homes or is it about News and solicitation of donations?
The HS and the Sheriff MIGHT of found what they THOUGHT were reasons to seize the dogs but the DA and the Judge thought otherwise. Difference is that the DA and the Judge aren’t involved with a Humane Society in any way whereas the owners of
the HS appear to have clouded judgment and the Sheriff’s wife is hip deep in the HS.
Wanta talk about “GO OUT AND GET A JOB” … please relay that to Ms. Lowerance and her cohorts.
Whether you like the idea of “WIRE” or not, at this time it is NOT ILLEGAL to do so.
Wanta raise your dog in the house on CARPET, that’s GREAT! …. If the AR’s have their way though and keep pushing through legislation, (legislation I might add that makes it the reason breeders raise the dogs the way they do now that you DISAGREE
with,) there will be NO Companion Dogs PERIOD so it will be a mute point of how anybody feels they should be raised.
The New Laws being enacted are NOT for the benefit of the dog. The New Laws are being made by Animal Rights Organizations that hope to eradicate Companion Animals and it’s funny how so many can’t seem to comprehend that when they OPENLY state it over and over and over and their websites CLEARLY STATE it as well.
Nancy1 – I respect your right to have an opinion. I hope you will respect mine. I agree TN laws do not look out for animals. Other state laws are clear and I hope TN will soon follow. Puppy mills and neglect is pretty much up to an individual or official for now. If a case goes to court and the judge does not think making a living running a puppy mill is wrong, he’ll rule in favor of the owners. There are a few judges who feel, like all dog lovers, puppy mills and those that make a living from owning them, should be stopped.
You stated: The HS and the Sheriff MIGHT of found what they THOUGHT were reasons to seize the dogs but the DA and the Judge thought otherwise. Difference is that the DA and the Judge aren’t involved with a Humane Society in any way whereas the owners of the HS appear to have clouded judgment and the Sheriff’s wife is hip deep in the HS. Wanta talk about “GO OUT AND GET A JOB†… please relay that to Ms. Lowerance and her cohorts.
Because the sheriff and HS felt there was reasons, is why the news media reported this case. They didn’t use the term suspected breeder, they used the term suspected puppy mill. The reorts were not about a few dogs it was about an estimated 140 dogs. The news reporters told this was the owners profession. The news reporters told the story about the lst neglect case in 2004. Then came photos and the personal veterinarian. Of course animal lovers were outraged. The story was on the news every day because it was news, not because animal lovers paid to have it reported.
You stated, you find it unnecessary to splash the breeders all over the world wide net and try to humiliate them and ruin their lives? The news reports put the story everywhere because that is what they’re paid to do and that includes the web. The public responded just like you have responded by putting organizations and names on the world wide web by stating, “the Sheriff’s wife is hip deep in the HS (the HS is an animal rescue organization)…and you named a MS. Loweranceâ€.
You think justice was carried out. Animal lovers feel it was not. It’s two opinions that will always collide. I hope everyone against puppy mills get their priorities in order and fight to have the TN law changed now. If they are changed discussions like this won’t be around. Until then, you’re right, puppy mills are legal and it appears this case is over.
“Puppy mills and neglect is pretty much up to an individual or official for now. If a case goes to court and the judge does not think making a living running a puppy mill is wrong, he’ll rule in favor of the owners. There are a few judges who feel, like all dog lovers, puppy mills and those that make a living from owning them, should be stopped.”
Are you against farming as well? Because this is the door you are opening up.
Dogs are animals. While we choose them as companion animals they are still animals. If you think that stopping commercially raised dogs is going to end the problem of neglect and abuse you are wrong. Are you against commercially produced clothing? Are you against commercially produced household items. If not? why not? Neglect and abuse are also associated with mass produced items made in foreign countries as well.
Dog farmers provide for the public, a cheap accessible means to obtain a household pet. To expect for a judge to rule against the owner of a dog farm because “they don’t like them” corrupts the justice system at its root. Do you expect judges to rule against gays and lesbians, jews or african americans because “they don’t like them”. I would hope not.
To rule against a company because you don’t like what they produce is just as prejudicial and it violates the ideology of free trade.
“Because the sheriff and HS felt there was reasons, is why the news media reported this case. They didn’t use the term suspected breeder, they used the term suspected puppy mill.”
That is because of what the HS fed the media and the general ignorance of the public. There is no legal term for puppymill. The word puppymill can mean and is applied to ANY ONE who is breeding dogs that SOME ONE ELSE does not agree with. It’s a slang term. Like the N word or any other derogatory hate encouraging title given to a group of people.
“The reorts were not about a few dogs it was about an estimated 140 dogs.”
So-what. It is your constitutional right to own as much property as you want. We live in a free country, not a communist/socialist one where no one else is allowed to have more than their neighbor.
“The news reporters told this was the owners profession.”
Yes it was their profession. Which is why they had 10-12 hours a day, just as any farmer, to take care of their animals. That was all they did.
“The news reporters told the story about the lst neglect case in 2004.”
A case that was dropped, something the news reporter did not mention.
“Then came photos and the personal veterinarian.”
Photos that cannot be verified. Photos that show large dogs of unknown breeds. Photos that show obviously different places and different times. Photos that were put up by a group of people that will do anything to win.
“Of course animal lovers were outraged. The story was on the news every day because it was news, not because animal lovers paid to have it reported.”
If it bleeds it leads.
If you want to compare the profession of commercially produced clothing or items to the profession of mass breeding living creatures you can. Many will and can continue to disagree.
You stated the pictures could not be verified because they were showing large dogs of unknown breeds. The pictures on the internet for the 2007 case, were pictures of small and toy breeds. They were housed in the same way the large breeds were in the 2004 but they were not large dogs.
You explained in your opinion this puppy mill case was misunderstood and stated – “That is because of what the HS fed the media and the general ignorance of the public.†You’re saying the HS lied to the media. What you fail to see is even if the public chose to ignore the sheriff’s charges, the HS report or the media , there are two very important facts the public knows to be true.
There has been two court cases. In both cases there was some common agreements between those who thought there was neglect and the judges because – In the 2004 case the judge did not find the owners innocent of all charges. The judge ruled the owners were not to own any dogs for one year and the puppy mill was shut down. In the 2007 case the judge did not find the owners innocent of all charges. The judge ordered the dogs and kennels be monitored for six months because he felt changes needed to be made. Two cases both ended with conditions.
This debate can go on between those with opposite opinions until the TN law changes. Personally, I hope, the conditions of the second neglect case are taken very seriously and there won’t be a third. Then everyone will move on.
“If you want to compare the profession of commercially produced clothing or items to the profession of mass breeding living creatures you can. Many will and can continue to disagree.”
Then you are not understanding what I am saying. Do you know WHO is making those items? Do you ever stop to think about it? Most are under aged children or poor adults, working in terrible conditions to make cheap items for american purchase. No they are not dogs. They are PEOPLE, who work 80 + hours a week for pennies. They don’t have a lot of human rights in China, the exact place that many of our clothes and household wares come from.
“You stated the pictures could not be verified because they were showing large dogs of unknown breeds. The pictures on the internet for the 2007 case, were pictures of small and toy breeds. They were housed in the same way the large breeds were in the 2004 but they were not large dogs.”
There were about 20 pictures in the 2007 case that appeared to be old English sheep dogs or dog mixes and even what appeared to be some sort of bulldog mix. Also multiple pictures of cocker spaniels. Everyone was talking about the dogs being on wire yet many of those pictures showed dogs on dirt??? Which was it.
Looking at the picture you could tell that they were also taken at different times of the year due to the light quality and leafy growth. When these things were questioned the pictures disappeared.
“You explained in your opinion this puppy mill case was misunderstood and stated – “That is because of what the HS fed the media and the general ignorance of the public.†You’re saying the HS lied to the media. What you fail to see is even if the public chose to ignore the sheriff’s charges, the HS report or the media , there are two very important facts the public knows to be true.”
Facts are something found to be truthful. What the media reported was not truthful. What the HS told the public was not truthful. If you doubt it read the court documents. They back tracked on a lot that was said.
No one had their story strait. They simply expected to be able to go in and take what they wanted. We have laws in this country regarding private property and no one, not even the cops, has the right to come in and take it without a warrant. They cannot even come on to your property without a warrant. The only time this is null and void is when there is an immediate HUMAN threat, such as injury, fire, or distress.
“There has been two court cases. In both cases there was some common agreements between those who thought there was neglect and the judges because – In the 2004 case the judge did not find the owners innocent of all charges. ”
No. You are wrong. They had a plea bargain. This is a common practice in law. Less than 90% of people brought on charges ever go to court. INNOCENT OR GUILTY, they plea out. The courts know this. Most people do not have the resources or the financial means to fight the courts, even when they are innocent.
“The judge ruled the owners were not to own any dogs for one year and the puppy mill was shut down.”
Yet they allowed them to keep many of the dogs.
“In the 2007 case the judge did not find the owners innocent of all charges. The judge ordered the dogs and kennels be monitored for six months because he felt changes needed to be made. Two cases both ended with conditions.”
Again you are mistaken. You do not understand the meaning of guilty vs innocent. A plea agreement was made. They got to have their dogs back and the situation will be monitored. NO ONE was found GUILTY.